Marine aquarium setup
  • idrisidris January 2013
    Posts: 1,182
    hi all,

    this is not regarding koi thats why i open this thread under non koi topics..i have full setup marine quarium that i had use before..after change to new house i feel not continue it..now want to start again..if any of you know, i would like to asked what is the salinity level of salt water i have to maintain for marine life?i have a salt meter so i guess it easier now..last time when im staying at condominium, all work, maintenance regarding salt water aquarium was done by marine service centre..just pay them for monthly maintenance..now want to do this from scratch...just want to put live rocks, some nemo and anemone...not a serious reef setup...

    thanks for the input..
  • mrkoimrkoi January 2013
    Posts: 496
    Hi bro Idris,

    U can set the salinity level between 1.021 - 1.023. Good luck.
    Post edited by mrkoi at 2013-01-15 02:16:32 pm
  • idrisidris January 2013
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    ok mr koi tq...how long you think i have to run the quarium before introducing live stock?
  • mrkoimrkoi January 2013
    Posts: 496
    I think u can put the live rock straight away. But make sure u check the live rock 1st. if got any crab. Then run the aquarium/filter for 2 weeks. Make sure everyday u put some bacteria starter for the 1st 2 weeks. Then only u can start put fishes.

    Btw, u sure its a live rock and not dead rock ? U just bought the live rock ?
  • idrisidris January 2013
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    live rock i got it from Aquatic International or pudu area...they come already in purple color...

    noted on the bacteria starter...another thing bang..can i use the salt that we usually bought for koi?? its same salt tight or is it different?
  • pslongpslong January 2013
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    Different type of salt bro.... Marine aquarium salt is sold at specialist aquarium shops :)
  • niveknivek January 2013
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    the more live rock the better as well. i used to have 70kg of live rock in my 3x2x2 feet aquarium and yes its marine salt..not the normal salt.
    Post edited by nivek at 2013-01-15 02:48:26 pm
  • mrkoimrkoi January 2013
    Posts: 496
    When u bought it, the rock dry or wet @ in water ? U marine setup with chiller or not ? If u plan to put corals then need chiller. If just anemone and fish then no need. Got 2 type of salt. One is for fish only while the other one is for corals + fish.

    Example as per attached photo :

    www.koianswers.com/discussion/download/11475/red-sea-salt-coral-pro.jpg
  • heng84heng84 January 2013
    Posts: 77
    sounds challenging, im interested in marine aquarium too , wanna try marine setup too but only went towards brackish setup on pufferfish, but not successful, both puffer also dead =( .. last week my snail oso died so i give up, my aquarium kosong now only got water inside haha
  • kolampkolamp January 2013
    Posts: 222
    SW or FW cycling the new setup IS a must. SW fish are more sensitive to ammonia spike compare to FW fish so quarintine & proper acclimation is also a must....if fish only tank, u can maintain salinity 1.1018-1.1023...but for coral tank, salinity should be maintained at constant 1.1021-1.1023...

    Bro Idris,
    the cheapest is instant Ocean Salt u can use and its cheaper than Red Sea salt but the only not good about IO is the low Ca (380-400ppm) but can put additives to bring up the value...to me for easier maintenance in future, better dry up the live rock in the sun become dead rock coz we dont know whats living inside the rock and might effect the tank inhabitant later...start everything fresh for ease of your mind later heheh...and AI is super duper expensive place to buy marine things and should be avoided at all cost....but it was different stories few years back with the old management....

    Bro Kevin,
    Thats alot of LR in a 3 footer!!! luckily it didn't break the tank heheh

    Now I missing my reef tank already :-((
  • IzrulIzrul January 2013
    Posts: 715
    Bro @idris surely a pet lover.
    Koi,tilapia,guppies,show quality cats,chickens ( show quality also :/ )....now marine aquarium...
    Walawehhh :-D :-D
  • ZackZack January 2013
    Posts: 232
    hi all,

    some nemo and anemone...not a serious reef setup...

    Bro Idris,

    anemone is nice in reef but it cannot keep still in one place. It likes to move around & potentially get suck or choke the filtration system! Even if it doesn't dies that way, natural death will foul your whole system & you have to start all over again! Btw anything related to soft corals needs a chiller. Last time I keep marine too.

    In singapore, marine aquarium shop especially in the farm sell fresh sea water which has all the natural metal & minerals rather than salt in a box. Furthermore when we need to replenish the sea water, we need to run it in other tank for couple of days before adding to main tank.
    My kois are my lover
  • KahhoeKahhoe January 2013
    Posts: 219
    Bro Idris ,
    U can try to search @ Aquatic International which is situated somewhere after subang airport ... Just that u have to pass through a road which is very terrible to enter to the aquatic shop ... ... I dont have any address but i only know how to go ... its situated just before the next traffic light to Sungai Buloh main road ... They actually supply and wholesale fresh water fish and alot of marine fish ... they even sells octopus , starfish many different and colourful marine fish and SHARKS too !!! 8-x ... You can try to have a look there because there are plenty of marine stuff and all kinds of marine fish sold there ... they even sells sea water for faster process ... and alot of live rock for you to choose too ... i saw many supplier or hobbist buys from there too ... I suggest that this is a very suitable place for you to visit or maybe purchase for your marine tank ;-)
    Rearing Nishikigoi are very interesting ... Just observe their development ... Everybody loves them =)
  • kominatokominato January 2013
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    Ha ha, after going into marine 3x over 7 years finally realised its a bleeding pocket hobby..and too much care reqiired, so just kois now...no regret.
  • idrisidris January 2013
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    Guys..actually I have marine tank with coral and fish for 2 years when I was staying at condominium...I have 45 coral total and 13 fish..I guess from there I already over stock...hahaha...those time I only call up maintenance team and even to add salt water they do for me...I only enjoy the view...when I move to new house in seremban I feel it is too hassle to bring whole setup...so I sold all coral and fish collection including chiller and skimmer to my friend for rm4k...hehe..now only left thequarium and the filtration system...I don't even know what is the salt level for marine tank that's why I'm learning from start...

    Bro kah hoe...I know where aquatic international are because last time I check I finish few thousand already there buying corals and clamps...wakakakakaak..every time I come back from that place I have to send my car to car wash..

    Bro zack..tq for the advice...you were right...anemone like to crawl all over the tank....but memo loves it..

    Bro Nivek and pslong...understood on the salt...I will cover most of the back area with live rock...hehe...

    Mr koi...if purple color live rock quite expensive...when transport back same like when we transfer fish back...

    Bro kolamp...noted on your guidance and suggestion...I guess once I set it up I will update back..but tell u the truth when my tank was in prime, it was really nice and fun..looking at the shrimp, clamps and all the corals acting towards my wave maker...Fuhhhhhh...it was a great therapy after work...

    Bro izrul....before I move to seremban, at my condo I have a cat, iguana, hamster, marine aquarium, nano tank and rabbit....beat that..hahaahah

    But now I'm starting back on the marine tank but simple one...not like before...planning to have ferret in the future...hehe
    Post edited by idris at 2013-01-15 10:23:21 pm
  • idrisidris January 2013
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    Bro kominato..u are right...buying yellow sun flower mushroom only 3 cm already cost me rm350...like buying Tosai....
  • KahhoeKahhoe January 2013
    Posts: 219
    Last time i planned to start with marine too ... but its a very hard work and need so much maintainance ... and very costly which cost a boom to even start with a mini aquarium ... but for seeing is nice ... but comes to the fishes that died so frequent and maintainance ... i have to surrender ... so now keep kois and arowanas is much more easy to maintain ... Hahaha :-)) :-)) :-))
    Rearing Nishikigoi are very interesting ... Just observe their development ... Everybody loves them =)
  • kolampkolamp January 2013
    Posts: 222
    Bro Idris,

    Yep really enjoyed it during its prime time...my wife until today still insist me to set up a reef tank for her to view inside d house since she can't appreciate koi yet furthermore its outside d house...here's my 4 footer during its prime time and some of d corals I went to Bali to pick myself

    [IMG]http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb94/esthapo/New%20Journey/DSC_0930-1_f.jpg[/IMG]
  • IzrulIzrul January 2013
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    That was a beauty...set up was like a pro..
    Poison for idris :-)) :-)) :-D
  • ZackZack January 2013
    Posts: 232
    Wow!!!! That's plenty of $$$ in the tank!

    Bro Idris, you remind me of my childhood time since at age of 5, I my late mum bought me a goldfish & I put in the glass bottle whereby during olden days, it is use to store sugar. As I grow up, I love pets & have been keeping rabbits, hamsters, Persian cats, all sorts of birds, terrapin, white mice & so on.
    I even buy an encyclopedia on tropical fish & bring it along whenever I visit a particular aquarium shop. Each time being a laughing subject by the owner as I open the book as reference.
    Staying at the ninth floor at that time, I understand that red ear terrapin needs lots of sun bathing. So I put them in a container & hang it at the cloths hanging area under the sun. An hour later all were gone. Commit suicide.
    When I was 10, I didn't know that male sea horse is 'pregnant' & bought couple of them. Mix tap water with salt from the kitchen & put in aeration. Next moment seen lots of baby sea horse being 'ejaculated' from the stomach & wow, I'm very happy as population increased. All dead & few days later, the fathers dies too.
    I like to explore & see for myself certain things like how hamsters mate & gives birth too not to the liking of my late mum. Fortunately when married, my wife is up to a certain level gives me freedom to keep pets.
    It was my child dream to have parrots & the 1st I got was a cockatoo. Evening time it squeak very loudly till I have to give it away due to complaints from neighbor. Now I have African grey & bought it when it was a 'baby'. Feeding by syringe at that time, now it is big & knows me very well. Likes to imitate lots of words too.
    I guess I won't finished telling but so sorry to hijack your post on my past.
    My kois are my lover
  • MikeMike January 2013
    Posts: 346
    Wuaaaa ..... this is poison poison poison and I have a 3' tank vacant ...

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